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Skinny Corpse · Mar 07, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

It's still very much doable.

Make sure you've got Quickening Zephyr up before using Endure Pain and it'll
be recharged and ready to use before the previous runs out.
Usually you only need to renew it once as the initial spike seems to wear off a bit.

Dante the Warlord · Mar 08, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse

It's still very much doable.

Make sure you've got Quickening Zephyr up before using Endure Pain and it'll
be recharged and ready to use before the previous runs out.
Usually you only need to renew it once as the initial spike seems to wear off a bit.

Tyvm i think what i did before was cast QZ too slow and use endure pain before it was set, then the spike killed me. But its still pretty hard, a lot of the times, even with all the enchants set up I can still die. drops aren't the crappy things i get in NM though, a lot better golds and a little more in cores

. I think a half hour netted me 10 cores and two golds! it was great. Even if i die, if i kill one or two, its usually better then all of the NM stuff combined.

Skinny Corpse · Mar 08, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10

It takes some practice, for sure, to get it right.. and still sometimes
you get your butt kicked in a matter of seconds and you have no
idea what happened.

Dante the Warlord · Mar 09, 2008, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse

It takes some practice, for sure, to get it right.. and still sometimes
you get your butt kicked in a matter of seconds and you have no
idea what happened.

Actually now I have it down, only times I die is when i talk to much to my guildies and lose track of the enemies. But yea its really fun

ive made great money and golds, also found 1 black dye, 2 white dyes, a 20/20 sundering hilt, AND a +30 fort. mod for axe. Truly a great way to farm AND it hasn't been nerfed which is a plus. Unfortunately its got crappy gold skins, nothing great was really dropped (was hoping for a nice rare skin blade to show up)

Kurt · Mar 13, 2008, 11:57 AM // 11:57

I'm tying to do it now but my main is necro so it aint easy ...

not so newb · Mar 13, 2008, 02:45 PM // 14:45

im going to do this challenge now!

SureShot · Mar 14, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Wow, I had no idea how easy this was, even with a Mesmer! Didn't even need to take an attacking weapon, just a Shield (in my case, Cyndr's Aegis did the job). Followed the suggestion by the OP of using this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

Mesmer/Ritualist (110armor)
12 Fast Casting + 12 Restoration - rest on Inspiration
[skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Elemental Resistance[/skill]
Note: Herald's Insignia's Or Artificer's Insignia's and take 5 useless signets

However I threw in Mantra of Frost instead as suggested by the OP, and gave my ranger Winter also, so Energy was never a problem.

I don't play my Mesmer often, so I only had 4 (3 Me and 1 Res) signets handy, but I guess 4x3 is better than nothing

. But man I love it, just gotta watch my timing on QZ and VwK initial activation. And not get too raged when it takes a whole second for the Ranger Hero to start casting QZ. Other than that, top dollar work guys! I'll have those pesky destroyer gloves in no time

Recorded a video of myself doing the run as my Mesmer in NM to show it can be done with almost any of the weaker AL classes if you fancy a butchers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAbMPqavtcY

bog boy · Mar 14, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

am having problems with HM w/rt
i feel i am doing it how the video does but i always die :P
any tips?i thought about taking a monk hench with enchants but idk
thanks for the help guys
gr8 build btw

Skinny Corpse · Mar 14, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by bog boy

am having problems with HM w/rt
i feel i am doing it how the video does but i always die :P
any tips?i thought about taking a monk hench with enchants but idk
thanks for the help guys
gr8 build btw

Do you die imediately or when Endure Pain ends or what happens?

There are a lot of good tips in this thread cuz quite a few, me included, had
some troubles getting the hang of the HM deal.

Tripolityx · Mar 14, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Anyone have done succesfull runs with Ranger in HM? Cause I have done and going to do anyways =P. But anyways. If this is just getting old thread or not updated I just leave it.

But the question was: If you are interested of seeing the Ranger Hard Mode run version in video please tell me a free and nice cam program what I can use so it can be shared with you guys

PS:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puff Dizzle

Successfully farmed HM with a Ranger, only done it once will post a screenie later.
Builds:
Hero:
Serpents Quickness
Quickening Zephyr
Conflagration
Quicksand-key skill
Mighty Was Vorizun-not needed
12 Expertise, 16 Wilderness Survival, 3 communing

Your Build:
Vengeful Was Khanhei
Vengeful Weapon
Ebon Battle Standard of Courage
Storm Chaser
Troll Unguent
"I Am Unstoppable"
Feel No Pain
Quickening Zephyr
5 Expertise, 15 Wilderness Survival, 12 Restoration Magic, R8 Norn, R7 Delver,
R3 Vanguard- those can probably vary but better with higher.

Sorry for not knowing how to use the skill icons.
Just wanted to contribute, thanks for the starter build to work of off

Ya it should be something like that pretty much (Yeah Quicksand, very nice, ty). Done many successfull rounds in HM (well manymanymanymany lol) but was wondering about to make a video about that if anyone is interested.

MercenaryKnight · Mar 14, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Would it be possible for 4 people, 2 smiters and 2 600 spellbreaker monk tanks (one for each side). Be able to completely do the entire hard mode mission? It seems like with arcane echo for spellbreaker chains it'd be easy for them to complete the entire mission together and get all the drops as well as end chest.

thedeadwalk! · Mar 15, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

I changed the ranger hero to Rt/R and use Ritual Lord with Quickening Zephyr. Now there's no down time for it.

It's pretty easy. I don't even use Vengeful Weapon, and only use Endure Pain at the beginning. Hard mode as well.

I use this with my warrior.

bog boy · Mar 15, 2008, 08:08 AM // 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse

Do you die imediately or when Endure Pain ends or what happens?

There are a lot of good tips in this thread cuz quite a few, me included, had
some troubles getting the hang of the HM deal.

i seem to die as soon as the second side come over to attack :S

peter81 · Mar 16, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

I got the same like bog boy: second side arrives and i die quickly, even if i have on me VwK and Endure Pain

It seems like overpowered dmg doing by Destroyers.
I dont have time even to cast second time VwK.

Skinny Corpse · Mar 16, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

I'm doing this right now so nothing's changed.
It is a critical moment the first time you need to renew VWK and Endure Pain, as
their initial attacks are a bit hysterical.
But keeping VWK, Endure Pain, I Will Avenge You! and Dolyak Signet up is usually enough
to survive.
If I'm too slow on hitting I Will Avenge You! as the last dwarf is dead and
my health sinks to much before I renew VWK and Endure Pain, then I usually
get in trouble.. other than that I don't know what kills you really.

*edit*
One thing that could help is to hit Endure Pain a bit before you run in.. wich makes it expire earlier than VWK, so
you don't have to renew both at the same time.
I just noticed I only have 14 strength.. wich works nicely too.

bog boy · Mar 16, 2008, 07:13 PM // 19:13

i can now do this HM with 14 strength

thanks guys

peter81 · Mar 19, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Nah - stupid me !
I went into this farm without Sentinels Insignia

Now its piece of cake on HM

Washi · Mar 19, 2008, 11:58 AM // 11:58

To the OP:

Ward Against Elements and I Am Unstoppable! do not stack.

shino_joost · Mar 20, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56

hey guys,
im a mo/rit but i cant seem to stay alive in nm.

my armor is full herald, using spear + shield and i chain my vwk and "i am unstoppable" like i should.

Is there anyway to increase my defenses even more?

First post says:
"also can fiddle with smiting prayers for extra dmg"
i cant think of anything really usefull that isnt a enchantment (they Shatter Enchant spike me if i use any kind of enchantment).

any help if apreciated!

Dante the Warlord · Mar 20, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Anyone know if this was nerfed. I used to get at lest 2 dcores per run, now im lucky if i get 1.

EDIT: srsly i just got one cresent blades total from the ENTIRE run...something is wrong here

EDIT 2: OK weird i got 1 d core and lockpick from one run, more then i get from a HM run at this poijnt, not sure what is wrong, but either im having a bad day or....just wow.